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		<title>Guiding Issues &#8211; 50mm Guide Scope Part II</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 11:57:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Hersey</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Saturday night was way to windy even for observing, but Sunday was nice, cool, and clear. Since it was a school night I just wanted to give my new DIY 50mm guide scope a try. Did a rough polar alignment, then the two star alignment, then the mount polar alignment with the hand controller, and [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saturday night was way to windy even for observing, but Sunday was nice, cool, and clear.  Since it was a school night I just wanted to give my new <a href="http://www.suffolksky.com/2010/04/diy-50mm-guide-scope-part-1/">DIY 50mm guide scope</a> a try.</p>
<p>Did a rough polar alignment, then the two star alignment, then the mount polar alignment with the hand controller, and then I redid the two star alignment.  I assume I had a pretty decent polar alignment with no drift after 5 minutes or so.</p>
<p>I inserted the <a href="http://www.jdoqocy.com/click-3172234-10514499?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.telescope.com%2Fcontrol%2Fproduct%2F%7Ecategory_id%3D%2F%7Epcategory%3D%2F%7Eproduct_id%3D52064%3Fid%3Dcjdf&#038;cjsku=52064">Starshoot guide camera</a> into the 50mm scope and cabled it up to the laptop and the auto guide port on the CG5 mount.  Started up <a href="http://www.stark-labs.com/phdguiding.html">PHD</a>, connected PHD to the camera and started taking 1 second exposures.  Had to adjust the gain and brightness but I was able to focus perfect and find several good stars.</p>
<p>The problem I had was with the PHD calibration.  I tried several different settings for RA aggressiveness in PHD and made multiple changes to the Autoguide settings on the hand controller.  I am not sure what I (or what may) be wrong but I could not get it to calibrate.  I even tried to guide with <a href="http://www.cyanogen.com/">Maxim DL Essentials</a> and again could not get it to calibrate.  Both programs gave me an error that the star did not move enough.  I spent several hours (way too many for a school night) fiddling with the settings, but I just could not get a good calibration.</p>
<p>This is not the first time I have had issues with calibration. I have been able to get guiding to <a href="http://www.suffolksky.com/2010/01/first-guided-image-flame-nebula-and-horsehead-nebula-january-9-2010/">work in the past</a>, but I am not able to get the guiding to calibrate consistently.  </p>
<p>To me it seems that the camera may not be talking to the guide port on the mount ???? but I am not sure why.  It is suppose to be clear again tonight so I will probably have another go at it. If anyone out there has any suggestions or ideas on what may be happening or what I am doing wrong, I could use the help.</p>
<p>If I am not able to get it to guide through the port on the mount I am going to give it a try through the hand controller using the <a href="http://ascom-standards.org/Downloads/ScopeDrivers.htm">ASCOM driver</a> and the serial port. </p>
<p><strong>Update:</strong> Found this information on <a href="http://www.stark-labs.com/wiki/doku.php?id=tutorials:phd:faq#calibration_issues">Calibration Issues</a> in the PHD FAQ. Going to try the Ctrl-T test, looks like I can do that in the daylight <img src='http://www.suffolksky.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  to make sure the software is talking through the USB port, to the camera, to the mount, then to the motors.  There are is also a <a href="http://www.stark-labs.com/wiki/doku.php?id=tutorials:phd:faq#setups_settings">setup and settings section</a> for my mount.</p>
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		<title>DIY 50mm Guide Scope Part 1</title>
		<link>http://www.suffolksky.com/2010/04/diy-50mm-guide-scope-part-1/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 00:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Hersey</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[While surfing around checking out astrophotography sites I happened across a great article on building a guide scope from a inexpensive finder scope and decided I would give it a try. I picked up an inexpensive 10x50mm finder scope from an eBay store &#8211; Telescope Warehouse &#8211; for just over $50 delivered and I picked [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While surfing around checking out astrophotography sites I happened across a great article on <a href="http://msfastro.net/articles/finder_guidescope/index.html">building a guide scope from a inexpensive finder scope</a> and decided I would give it a try.  I picked up an inexpensive 10x50mm finder scope from an eBay store &#8211; <a href="http://stores.ebay.com/Telescope-Warehouse">Telescope Warehouse</a> &#8211; for just over $50 delivered and I picked up another used Celestron 9&#215;50 from <a href="http://www.astromart.com/classifieds/">Astromart Classifieds</a>.  Why two?  Cause I know me and I figured I would screw one of them up (surprisingly I didn&#8217;t).  </p>
<p>Anyway the <a href="http://msfastro.net/articles/finder_guidescope/index.html">instructions found here are pretty straight forward</a> and I spent about $10 at Lowe&#8217;s for the PVC spacer, set screws, and tap kit.  I ended up using 8-32 set screws and thumbscrew since Lowe&#8217;s did not have any 6-32s &#8211; this worked out just fine.</p>
<p>Here are some pics of the finished product.</p>
<div id="attachment_612" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 310px"><a href="http://www.suffolksky.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/guidescope_1.jpg"><img src="http://www.suffolksky.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/guidescope_1-300x225.jpg" alt="" title="Inexpensive 10x50mm Finderscope " width="300" height="225" class="size-medium wp-image-612" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Inexpensive 10x50mm Finderscope </p></div>
<div id="attachment_613" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 310px"><a href="http://www.suffolksky.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/guidescope_2.jpg"><img src="http://www.suffolksky.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/guidescope_2-300x225.jpg" alt="" title="guidescope_2" width="300" height="225" class="size-medium wp-image-613" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">The PVC Spacer secured in the finderscope tube.</p></div>
<div id="attachment_615" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 310px"><a href="http://www.suffolksky.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/guidescope_4.jpg"><img src="http://www.suffolksky.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/guidescope_4-300x225.jpg" alt="" title="With the Starshooter Autoguide camera attached." width="300" height="225" class="size-medium wp-image-615" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">With the Starshooter Autoguide camera attached.</p></div>
<p>I powered up the laptop, connected the camera, and I was able to get good focus on a tree off in the distance.  So I am pretty confident that I am going to be able to obtain quick focus when I use it as a guide scope. I am able to loosen the thumbscrew and move the camera in and out to help if I am not able to get focus by adjusting the front lens.</p>
<p>So for just over $60 (not counting the quick release bracket) I have a nice (and light) guide scope.</p>
<p>The reason this I titled this post Part 1 is that I have not yet mounted the scope to my C8 or AT66, this is because I am not able to get the dovetail and mount to match up right with either scope. I have ordered a <a href="http://www.adorama.com/CNFBQR.html">Celestron quick release finder scope bracket</a> and  should have it any day.  Once I get it mounted and get a chance to try it out I will post a follow up.</p>
<p>Again check out <a href="http://msfastro.net/articles/finder_guidescope/index.html">Constructing a guide scope from a finder scope</a> for instructions on putting one together yourself.</p>
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